The Superiority of Tauhid and what it removes of sins

July 15th, 2008 by euraktiva

Allah the Most Exalted said:

"It is those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah and worship none
but Him Alone) and confuse not their belief with Zulm (wrong i.e. by
worshipping other besides Allah), for them (only) there is security and
they are guided ones."

(6:82)

Narrated Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him), that
Allah’s Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
said:

"Whoever testifies that there is nothing worthy of worship in
truth (no God) except Allah Alone, Who is without (peer or) partner,
and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Iesa (Jesus) is
the slave of Allah, His Messenger, and His Word which He bestowed in
Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (created) from Him, and that Paradise &
Hell-fire are realities, Allah will admit him into Paradise, whatever
his deeds might be." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Hadith No. 3252)

‘Itban (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said:

"Indeed Allah has forbidden for Hell the person who testifies:
‘There is nothing worthy of worship in truth (no true God) but Allah’,
seeking thereby nothing but Allah’s Face (pleasure)."

(Al-Bukhari, Muslim).

Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated that
Allah’s Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
said:

"Musa (Moses) (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
said: ‘O my Rabb, teach me something through which I can remember You
and supplicate to You.’

Allah answered:

‘Say, O Musa, La ilaha ilIa-Allah’. Musa said: ‘O my Rabb, all your
slaves say these words’. Allah said: ‘O Musa, if the seven heavens and
all they contain other than Me **(Ghairy) and the seven earthsas well,
were all put in one side of a scale and La ilaha ilIa-Allah put in the
other the latter would overweigh them.’" [This Hadith has been reported
by Ibn Hibban, and Al-Hakim declared it

Sahih].

**This phrase (Ghairy) is the exception from what is in the
heavens. It should not be misunderstood that Allah is contained within
the heavens or earth since He has described Himself in the Qur’an as
the Transcendent, Most High, Above All, i.e. in 2:255, 20:5, 25:59 and
many places elsewhere in His Book. Indeed the statement is another
proof that Allah cannot be considered within the creation. [Detailed
explanation can be seen in "Fath-ul-Majid Sharh Kitab-ut-Tauhid
-Translator].

At-Tirmidhi reports from Anas (May Allah be pleased with him): He
heard Allah’s Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon
him) saying:

"Allah the Most Exalted said: ‘O son of Adam, were you to come to
Me with the world full of sins, and meet Me without making anything
partner to Me (Shirk), I would come to you with a similar amount of
forgiveness.’ "

(Extracts)Taken from the book……..Kiittab Att–Tauhiid by Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab

‘Opium financed British rule in India

July 15th, 2008 by euraktiva

Leading Indian writer Amitav Ghosh’s critically acclaimed new novel Sea
of Poppies is set during a time when opium trade out of India was
flourishing during British rule.

The novel spans three continents and close to two centuries and is
the first in a planned historical trilogy set in the 19th century.

Ghosh, a trained anthropologist and historian with a doctorate from
Oxford University, spoke to the BBC’s Soutik Biswas on the colonial
opium trade.

Sea of Poppies is a historical novel. Is it the fact that the
British were the world’s biggest opium suppliers two centuries ago that
led you into this story?

I should correct you. It was not two centuries ago. Under the
British Raj, an enormous amount of opium was being exported out of
India until the 1920s.

And no, the opium story was not really the trigger for the novel.
What basically interested me when I started this book were the lives of
the Indian indentured workers, especially those who left India from the
Bihar region.

But once I started researching into it, it was kind of inescapable
- all the roads led back to opium. The indentured emigration [out of
India] really started in the 1830s and that was [around the time of]
the peak of the opium traffic. That decade culminated in the opium wars
against China.

Also all the indentured workers at that time came from all the
opium growing regions in the Benares and Ghazipur areas. So there was
such an overlap there was no escaping opium.

When and how did you end up researching and learning more about the British opium trade out of India?

I was looking into it as I began writing the book about five years ago. Like most Indians, I had very little idea about opium.

I had no idea that India was the largest opium exporter for
centuries. I had no idea that opium was essentially the commodity which
financed the British Raj in India.

‘Opium financed British rule in India

July 15th, 2008 by euraktiva

Leading Indian writer Amitav Ghosh’s critically acclaimed new novel Sea
of Poppies is set during a time when opium trade out of India was
flourishing during British rule.

The novel spans three continents and close to two centuries and is
the first in a planned historical trilogy set in the 19th century.

Ghosh, a trained anthropologist and historian with a doctorate from
Oxford University, spoke to the BBC’s Soutik Biswas on the colonial
opium trade.

Sea of Poppies is a historical novel. Is it the fact that the
British were the world’s biggest opium suppliers two centuries ago that
led you into this story?

I should correct you. It was not two centuries ago. Under the
British Raj, an enormous amount of opium was being exported out of
India until the 1920s.

And no, the opium story was not really the trigger for the novel.
What basically interested me when I started this book were the lives of
the Indian indentured workers, especially those who left India from the
Bihar region.

But once I started researching into it, it was kind of inescapable
- all the roads led back to opium. The indentured emigration [out of
India] really started in the 1830s and that was [around the time of]
the peak of the opium traffic. That decade culminated in the opium wars
against China.

Also all the indentured workers at that time came from all the
opium growing regions in the Benares and Ghazipur areas. So there was
such an overlap there was no escaping opium.

When and how did you end up researching and learning more about the British opium trade out of India?

I was looking into it as I began writing the book about five years ago. Like most Indians, I had very little idea about opium.

I had no idea that India was the largest opium exporter for
centuries. I had no idea that opium was essentially the commodity which
financed the British Raj in India.

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Pseudonymous Columnist Markets Zionism to Christians–and for Arabs, ‘More Barbed Wire, More War,

May 22nd, 2008 by euraktiva
The other day a friend sent me a piece by the columnist "Spengler" of Asia Times online,
saying that Israel is the happiest country in the world, while Arabs
are "miserable" and their covetousness makes the idea of peace in the
region impossible. These neocon horse feathers were trimmed out with
theology about Islam and Judaism. I wondered who the hell Spengler is.

Then yesterday, a guy called Mark wrote to me, pointing out an even uglier statement by Spengler, on May 8, in an online forum Spengler leads:

The hidden premise of Islam is that Israel is chosen; that is why it [Islam]
had to invent a "final revelation" to replace Hebrew Scripture,
substitute Ishmael for Isaac, etc. etc. The nations desire Eternal
Life, of which they first heard from the Jews, and covet God’s promise
to the Jews, who never can "unchoose" themselves, because no-one ever
will believe them. The Arabs are a dying culture and Islam is a dying
religion, and the only sensible thing to do is keep death at a
distance.


So: more war, more barbed wire, more killing, please! [emphasis mine]

Who is this murderous person? Wikipedia informs that Spengler has not been forthcoming
about his religion, ethnicity or identity. My new friend Mark told me
that he thinks Spengler also writes under the pseudonym "Shushon." Here
are Mark’s first couple of emails to me [and I will freely interpolate
my comments within his, in brackets]:

 

I’d
like to draw your attention to an article in the current issue of First
Things, a monthly journal of "religion, culture and public life" [edited by neoconservative Father Richard John Neuhaus]. The
article is entitled "Zionism for Christians" and is written by "David
Shushon".

I put the author’s name within quotation marks because I think it’s a
transparent pseudonym, almost certainly for the anonymous internet
gadfly "Spengler." First Things once previously published an article
by Spengler
under his Spengler pseudonym ("Christian, Muslim, Jew" -
October 2007), and anyone familiar with his style and thought will recognize "Zionism for Christians" as his work.

[In a rapid hunt of the 2 pieces, I find that both quote extensively
from Franz Rosenzweig, including his statement that Christians and Jews
are "laborers at the same task," and both speak of anti-semitism as a
form of neopaganism, i.e., not Christian. This guy Mark is making sense
to me.]

The idea of this most recent article is to persuade Christians that
support for the state of Israel is theologically mandated by their
faith. What does "support for the state of Israel" mean, from the
Spengler perspective? Perhaps the best way to summarize that phrase
from Spengler’s point of view is to quote a recent comment he made on
his forum–the kind of comment he avoids in the urbane pages of First
Things. [And here Mark quotes the "barbed wire" comment from above]

Obviously, such comments are difficult to make under a true name in
mainstream media, so Spengler has been making them pseudonymously. For
more polite audiences he has now found a forum at First Things, where
he couches his ideology in pseudo-theological terms.

The bottom line is that Spengler is seeking to convince Christians that support for the Greater Israel
agenda that you decry is hardwired into Christian theology. He is also
probably trying to bolster the flagging Jewish support for this
ideology.

First Things touts the article in these terms: "The issue features, as well, David Shushon’s “Zionism for Christians.” That’s this month’s free article, available even to non-subscribers–but, then, why are there any non-subscribers, when you could read in the print version Shushon’s fascinating essay, which begins: ‘Israel
always matters. Biblical scholars have devoted endless pages to ancient
Israel as a religious idea, and pundits have penned endless newspaper
columns about modern Israel as a geopolitical entity. The deeper
implications, however, have received less attention than they deserve
in recent years, overshadowed by the exigencies of Middle Eastern
politics. Indeed, real questions remain: What does the sheer existence
of the modern state of Israel mean for theology–particularly for
Christian theology? And what does that theology mean for the continuing
existence of Israel?’"

What, in effect, Spengler is attempting is to persuade the Catholic
Church–or, at least and less grandiosely, influential intellectuals
and opinion shapers within it–to sanction a specific form of
nationalism: Zionism. The practical benefit Spengler sees would be an
increase of support for a radically Zionist Israel within influential Catholic circles, and the Catholic Church
remains the largest and most influential single Christian grouping in
the West.

Spengler’s attempt rests upon a fundamentalistic reading of
the Bible, specifically of the Abraham and Exodus stories. While one
might expect the Catholic Church
to be immune from such a fundamentalist appeal, that is not the case.
Catholic scriptural theology has been deeply infected with
fundamentalist readings since the Reformation–essentially, they were
put on the defensive by the Reformers and are unsure how to distance
themselves from fundamentalism without seeming to renounce scriptural
authority. I speak on a popular level–the official statements of the
Church do struggle to effect this distancing, but very cautiously and
not entirely coherently, for fear of the "modernists" among them. So,
Spengler’s appeal could well be considerable among the "conservative"
Christians (including Catholics) especially in America.

By the way, as you may know, in Jewish mysticism the
"shushon/shushan flower"
seems to be a symbol for Zion - six points/petals to the flower.
[Didn't know that. By the way, Switchboard lists nobody with the last
name of Shushon in the U.S., suggesting that it is a madeup name] So,
for those in the know, the pseudonym Shushon may be a code for
Zionist.

[I asked Mark what's wrong with Spengler, whoever he is, using pseudonyms.]

First Things has given Spengler/Shushon a forum to try to recruit Catholics to
the Zionist cause. Spengler/Shushon presents Zionism in a theological
way, whereas Spengler’s real interests are very practical. He conceals
what may be entailed for those who are deluded into believing that
support of the state of Israel is a matter of fundamental theology for
Catholics: once on board with that concept, they may (if Spengler has
his way) be called upon to support "more war, more barbed wire, more
killing, please!" (Reminds me of the bar scene in Fawlty Towers.)
After all, if support of the Zionist cause is written into the Creed,
so to speak, there’s no backing away from the implications: the end
will justify the means at that point. For that reason, I think Neuhaus
owes it to his readers to reveal who the author Shushon is, so they can
be aware that his agenda is not academic theology but power politics.

[Weiss again: I think the sale of Zionism to evangelical Christians
gets at one of my big problems with Zionism. Because
Israel has depended from the start on the west and Zionists generally
believe as an article of faith that gentiles won't protect Jews
when it comes right down to it, Zionism's advocates have often tried to
market Zionism as being in the west's best interest, and at times that
claim
feels like so much snake oil. During the Cold War it made realist
sense, to some, to overlook the landgrabs. Since then it's been
problematic. The whole idea of "Islamofascism" clearly helped--the
claim that the U.S. and Israel are in the same war (a claim that Trita
Parsi has said was dreamed up by Israelis in the '90s).
But this idea hasn't worked out very well in Iraq, not in the blue states anyway, and meantime the
American Jewish interest in Zionism has weakened: young Jews don't feel
they have to flee to Tel Aviv, not when they're marrying privileged
gentile peers.

[I raised the snake-oil issue with Mark.]

It’s precisely the snake-oil aspect of what he’s peddling–his effort
to couch his product in terms that will appeal to the intellectual
pretensions of the Christian chattering classes–that needs to be
addressed. You
don’t have to be a Christian to have grave doubts as to the
compatibility of "more war, more barbed wire, more killing, please!"
with what are generally supposed to be the tenets of Christian faith,
nor for that matter do you have to be Jewish to have the same
reservations regarding the compatibility of what he’s saying with the
best in the very diverse Jewish tradition.

 

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An
important post for anyone who still assigns weight to ‘First Things.’ I
gave up on Asia Times several years ago, mainly because of the neocon
pugnaciousness of Spengler, who I assumed was acting as vicarious
amanuensis for the website owner. Same reason I gave up on pedantic,
prolific Richard Neuhaus: apologias for neocon wars ain’t Christian;
the Good (converted) Father can line up rhetorical angels on the head
of his pin till they are tumbling off the edges, but that doesn’t make
Iraq a just war under Catholic doctrine. Neuhaus should be obedient to
Rome and the clearly expressed intent of the recent Popes; he isn’t,
his defense of unjust war (which becomes a defense of murder)is a
disgrace to any thinking Catholic. What a disappointment from the
(then-Lutheran) author of ‘The Naked Public Square.’

(A nice rebuttal of his "Christian militarism" thesis can be read here:)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/paul-w1.html

Rosenzweig’s a complicated figure, and it’s an eccentric chink in
Spengler’s churlish armor that he remains so devoted to him. From
Wikipedia:

"Rosenzweig, while critical of Jewish scholar Martin Buber’s early
work, became close friends with him upon their actually meeting. This
friendship lasted despite their differences of political opinion: Buber
was a Zionist, while Rosenzweig was a strong defender of the
German-Jewish heritage and felt that a return to Israel would embroil
the Jews into a worldly history they should eschew (this position was
given a tragic tone by the death of Rosenzweig’s wife in a
concentration camp long after he himself had perished of disease)."

"Rosenzweig’s final attempt (he was dying from ALS) to communicate
his thought, via the laborious typewriter-alphabet method, consisted in
the partial sentence: "And now it comes, the point of all points, which
the Lord has truly revealed to me in my sleep, the point of all points
for which there—". The writing was interrupted by his doctor, with whom
he had a short discussion using the same method. When the doctor left,
Rosenzweig did not wish to continue with the writing, and he died in
the night, the sentence left unfinished."

thanks oarwell, lovely

Perusing
a few more of Spengler’s recent (burnt)offerings, we find, from the
Oct. 30 2007 AT, "When you can’t deal with the devil." Guess who the
devil is?
(Spengler’s mask has slipped since last I read him–now he just dishes up straight Krauthammerian paranoiac propaganda)

"In February 2006, I argued that a few sorties by American aircraft
could put the Iranian problem to rest, but that the window for a clean
military operation would not last long.
The longer Washington dallies, the more resources Tehran can put in place, including:

Upgrading Hezbollah’s offensive-weapon capabilities in Lebanon.

Integrating Hamas into its sphere of influence and military operations.

Putting in place terrorist capability against the West.

Preparing its Shi’ite auxiliaries in Iraq for insurrection."

"In early 2006, I predicted "war with Iran on the worst terms", and
that is what the West is likely to get. I warned at the time, "if
Washington waits another year to deliver an ultimatum to Iran, the
results will be civil war to the death in Iraq, the direct engagement
of Israel in a regional war through Hezbollah and Hamas, and extensive
terrorist action throughout the West, with extensive loss of American
life. There are no good outcomes, only less terrible ones. The West
will attack Iran, but only when such an attack will do the least good
and the most harm."

"Deals with the devil simply do not work, even in the ethically
challenged world of foreign policy. The devil will act according to his
nature, whatever bargain one attempts to make with him."

"Western civilians well may pay a heavy price for the excision of
Iran’s nuclear program in the form of terror attacks. The price may be
steep, but it’s worth it."

The West has no choice but to attack Iran, because Iran believes
that it has no choice but to develop nuclear weapons. Make no mistake:
this attack will destabilize the entire region, past the capacity of
the king’s horses and king’s men to reassemble it. The agenda will
shift from how best to promote stability, to how best to turn
instability to advantage."
——

Spengler’s recommendations form a blueprint for Hell. He confuses
the cause of the West’s sickness, centralized government militarism in
concert with imperialist corporatism, with the cure. We don’t need to
smash Islam with an iron fist, we need to reembrace the things that,
historically, have made the West preeminent: Aristotelianism,
Judeo-Christian ethical advances, and the inviolable dignity of the
individual in relation to the State.

More war will only lead to more war, and the further destruction of authentic Western values.

Spengler, though he denies it, is, like his namesake, a pessimist:
he can see no future for the West that does not entailing mass murder.

Like Neuhaus, Spengler’s great intelligence is no protection against profound error.

I noticed that Midge Decter leads the list of the members of the Editorial Board of FT.


Ambitious Jews bent on power and control on a massive political and
geographical scale have always been limited by the relatively tiny
number of Jews within the crucible from whence they came, and so have
sought after masses of gentile useful idiots who can be used as troops.
They have drawn-in these useful idiots with ideologies open to everyone
and theoretically beneficial to everyone, which are then used to
primarily advance the interests of the Jewish core.

In the 20th Century, Communism was this ideology; in the 21st, it is
Neoconservatism. Naive Christian Zionists are the useful idiots of
today, just as naive, eager, idealistic collectivists were the useful
idiots of yesterday.

Maybe there is a Darwinian element to this; those individuals
foolish enough to be hoodwinked by Organized Jewish Chicanery (OJC) end
up as canon fodder, just as whole societies foolish enough to be
hoodwinked by OJC end up with the kinds of problems that now afflict
America, including terrorist attacks because of support for Israel,
open borders/cheap labor to enrich OJC, massive deregulation of OJC
controlled industries, and a generally politically correct governing
class that refuses to address the OJC elephant in the living room.

What OJC amounts to is a Jewish oligarchy bent on extracting as much
nourishment and as many resource as it can from any given society or
country before the cadaver finally collapses, as did the Soviet Union.
OJC will then move on to fresh meat elsewhere.

Canada, Australia, Oceania…be afraid…be very afraid.

Will
BushCo bomb Iran before he leaves office, or leave it to the
replacement? If that’s Obama, it will not happen; otherwise, it will.
Is that the practical sum of it?

Just wanna know how much I will be paying for gas. And, wanna know if there will be US military draft.

Anybody got a clue?

RE:’More Barbed Wire, More War, Please’

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Regarding regime change in Iraq, in 2002 Ledeen criticized the views
of former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, writing:[20]

He fears that if we attack Iraq "I think we could have an explosion
in the Middle East. It could turn the whole region into a cauldron and
destroy the War on Terror."
One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please.

Friedmanism may be more comparable to Marxism as a world movement than is Christian Zionism.

The Christian Zionists are probably more like the Russian and
Ukrainian Orthodox peasant, who put so much effort into making
pilgrimages to the Holy Land in the late 19th century. One can easily
imagine that Jabotinsky wanted to harness such naive religious fervor
to serve his movement.

When he finally visited the USA to recruit Jews to his form of
Zionism, he also found Christians with just the right combination of
zeal and gullability in white racist premillennial dispensationist
Confederate irredentists of the American South. Jabotinsky consciously
canvassed their leaders in order to inject Zionism into their
eschatology.

Friedmanism may be more comparable to Marxism as a world movement than is Christian Zionism.

The Christian Zionists are probably more like the Russian and
Ukrainian Orthodox peasant, who put so much effort into making
pilgrimages to the Holy Land in the late 19th century. One can easily
imagine that Jabotinsky wanted to harness such naive religious fervor
to serve his movement.

When he finally visited the USA to recruit Jews to his form of
Zionism, he also found Christians with just the right combination of
zeal and gullability in white racist premillennial dispensationist
Confederate irredentists of the American South. Jabotinsky consciously
canvassed their leaders in order to inject Zionism into their
eschatology.

MICHAEL LEDEEN ON NRO:

February 07, 2005, 8:50 a.m.
Faster, Please
Iran needs change. We need to help — now.


"…to the Iranian people, I say tonight: As you stand for your own
liberty, America stands with you." — President Bush, in the State of
the Union Address

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200502070850.asp

SALON:

Iranian regime change: "Faster, please!"
Neocon Michael Ledeen, long a proponent of "democratic revolution" in Iran, weighs the odds of military action by the U.S.

By Alex Koppe

Pseudonymous Columnist Markets Zionism to Christians–and for Arabs, ‘More Barbed Wire, More War,

May 22nd, 2008 by euraktiva
The other day a friend sent me a piece by the columnist "Spengler" of Asia Times online,
saying that Israel is the happiest country in the world, while Arabs
are "miserable" and their covetousness makes the idea of peace in the
region impossible. These neocon horse feathers were trimmed out with
theology about Islam and Judaism. I wondered who the hell Spengler is.

Then yesterday, a guy called Mark wrote to me, pointing out an even uglier statement by Spengler, on May 8, in an online forum Spengler leads:

The hidden premise of Islam is that Israel is chosen; that is why it [Islam]
had to invent a "final revelation" to replace Hebrew Scripture,
substitute Ishmael for Isaac, etc. etc. The nations desire Eternal
Life, of which they first heard from the Jews, and covet God’s promise
to the Jews, who never can "unchoose" themselves, because no-one ever
will believe them. The Arabs are a dying culture and Islam is a dying
religion, and the only sensible thing to do is keep death at a
distance.


So: more war, more barbed wire, more killing, please! [emphasis mine]

Who is this murderous person? Wikipedia informs that Spengler has not been forthcoming
about his religion, ethnicity or identity. My new friend Mark told me
that he thinks Spengler also writes under the pseudonym "Shushon." Here
are Mark’s first couple of emails to me [and I will freely interpolate
my comments within his, in brackets]:

 

I’d
like to draw your attention to an article in the current issue of First
Things, a monthly journal of "religion, culture and public life" [edited by neoconservative Father Richard John Neuhaus]. The
article is entitled "Zionism for Christians" and is written by "David
Shushon".

I put the author’s name within quotation marks because I think it’s a
transparent pseudonym, almost certainly for the anonymous internet
gadfly "Spengler." First Things once previously published an article
by Spengler
under his Spengler pseudonym ("Christian, Muslim, Jew" -
October 2007), and anyone familiar with his style and thought will recognize "Zionism for Christians" as his work.

[In a rapid hunt of the 2 pieces, I find that both quote extensively
from Franz Rosenzweig, including his statement that Christians and Jews
are "laborers at the same task," and both speak of anti-semitism as a
form of neopaganism, i.e., not Christian. This guy Mark is making sense
to me.]

The idea of this most recent article is to persuade Christians that
support for the state of Israel is theologically mandated by their
faith. What does "support for the state of Israel" mean, from the
Spengler perspective? Perhaps the best way to summarize that phrase
from Spengler’s point of view is to quote a recent comment he made on
his forum–the kind of comment he avoids in the urbane pages of First
Things. [And here Mark quotes the "barbed wire" comment from above]

Obviously, such comments are difficult to make under a true name in
mainstream media, so Spengler has been making them pseudonymously. For
more polite audiences he has now found a forum at First Things, where
he couches his ideology in pseudo-theological terms.

The bottom line is that Spengler is seeking to convince Christians that support for the Greater Israel
agenda that you decry is hardwired into Christian theology. He is also
probably trying to bolster the flagging Jewish support for this
ideology.

First Things touts the article in these terms: "The issue features, as well, David Shushon’s “Zionism for Christians.” That’s this month’s free article, available even to non-subscribers–but, then, why are there any non-subscribers, when you could read in the print version Shushon’s fascinating essay, which begins: ‘Israel
always matters. Biblical scholars have devoted endless pages to ancient
Israel as a religious idea, and pundits have penned endless newspaper
columns about modern Israel as a geopolitical entity. The deeper
implications, however, have received less attention than they deserve
in recent years, overshadowed by the exigencies of Middle Eastern
politics. Indeed, real questions remain: What does the sheer existence
of the modern state of Israel mean for theology–particularly for
Christian theology? And what does that theology mean for the continuing
existence of Israel?’"

What, in effect, Spengler is attempting is to persuade the Catholic
Church–or, at least and less grandiosely, influential intellectuals
and opinion shapers within it–to sanction a specific form of
nationalism: Zionism. The practical benefit Spengler sees would be an
increase of support for a radically Zionist Israel within influential Catholic circles, and the Catholic Church
remains the largest and most influential single Christian grouping in
the West.

Spengler’s attempt rests upon a fundamentalistic reading of
the Bible, specifically of the Abraham and Exodus stories. While one
might expect the Catholic Church
to be immune from such a fundamentalist appeal, that is not the case.
Catholic scriptural theology has been deeply infected with
fundamentalist readings since the Reformation–essentially, they were
put on the defensive by the Reformers and are unsure how to distance
themselves from fundamentalism without seeming to renounce scriptural
authority. I speak on a popular level–the official statements of the
Church do struggle to effect this distancing, but very cautiously and
not entirely coherently, for fear of the "modernists" among them. So,
Spengler’s appeal could well be considerable among the "conservative"
Christians (including Catholics) especially in America.

By the way, as you may know, in Jewish mysticism the
"shushon/shushan flower"
seems to be a symbol for Zion - six points/petals to the flower.
[Didn't know that. By the way, Switchboard lists nobody with the last
name of Shushon in the U.S., suggesting that it is a madeup name] So,
for those in the know, the pseudonym Shushon may be a code for
Zionist.

[I asked Mark what's wrong with Spengler, whoever he is, using pseudonyms.]

First Things has given Spengler/Shushon a forum to try to recruit Catholics to
the Zionist cause. Spengler/Shushon presents Zionism in a theological
way, whereas Spengler’s real interests are very practical. He conceals
what may be entailed for those who are deluded into believing that
support of the state of Israel is a matter of fundamental theology for
Catholics: once on board with that concept, they may (if Spengler has
his way) be called upon to support "more war, more barbed wire, more
killing, please!" (Reminds me of the bar scene in Fawlty Towers.)
After all, if support of the Zionist cause is written into the Creed,
so to speak, there’s no backing away from the implications: the end
will justify the means at that point. For that reason, I think Neuhaus
owes it to his readers to reveal who the author Shushon is, so they can
be aware that his agenda is not academic theology but power politics.

[Weiss again: I think the sale of Zionism to evangelical Christians
gets at one of my big problems with Zionism. Because
Israel has depended from the start on the west and Zionists generally
believe as an article of faith that gentiles won't protect Jews
when it comes right down to it, Zionism's advocates have often tried to
market Zionism as being in the west's best interest, and at times that
claim
feels like so much snake oil. During the Cold War it made realist
sense, to some, to overlook the landgrabs. Since then it's been
problematic. The whole idea of "Islamofascism" clearly helped--the
claim that the U.S. and Israel are in the same war (a claim that Trita
Parsi has said was dreamed up by Israelis in the '90s).
But this idea hasn't worked out very well in Iraq, not in the blue states anyway, and meantime the
American Jewish interest in Zionism has weakened: young Jews don't feel
they have to flee to Tel Aviv, not when they're marrying privileged
gentile peers.

[I raised the snake-oil issue with Mark.]

It’s precisely the snake-oil aspect of what he’s peddling–his effort
to couch his product in terms that will appeal to the intellectual
pretensions of the Christian chattering classes–that needs to be
addressed. You
don’t have to be a Christian to have grave doubts as to the
compatibility of "more war, more barbed wire, more killing, please!"
with what are generally supposed to be the tenets of Christian faith,
nor for that matter do you have to be Jewish to have the same
reservations regarding the compatibility of what he’s saying with the
best in the very diverse Jewish tradition.

 

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An
important post for anyone who still assigns weight to ‘First Things.’ I
gave up on Asia Times several years ago, mainly because of the neocon
pugnaciousness of Spengler, who I assumed was acting as vicarious
amanuensis for the website owner. Same reason I gave up on pedantic,
prolific Richard Neuhaus: apologias for neocon wars ain’t Christian;
the Good (converted) Father can line up rhetorical angels on the head
of his pin till they are tumbling off the edges, but that doesn’t make
Iraq a just war under Catholic doctrine. Neuhaus should be obedient to
Rome and the clearly expressed intent of the recent Popes; he isn’t,
his defense of unjust war (which becomes a defense of murder)is a
disgrace to any thinking Catholic. What a disappointment from the
(then-Lutheran) author of ‘The Naked Public Square.’

(A nice rebuttal of his "Christian militarism" thesis can be read here:)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/paul-w1.html

Rosenzweig’s a complicated figure, and it’s an eccentric chink in
Spengler’s churlish armor that he remains so devoted to him. From
Wikipedia:

"Rosenzweig, while critical of Jewish scholar Martin Buber’s early
work, became close friends with him upon their actually meeting. This
friendship lasted despite their differences of political opinion: Buber
was a Zionist, while Rosenzweig was a strong defender of the
German-Jewish heritage and felt that a return to Israel would embroil
the Jews into a worldly history they should eschew (this position was
given a tragic tone by the death of Rosenzweig’s wife in a
concentration camp long after he himself had perished of disease)."

"Rosenzweig’s final attempt (he was dying from ALS) to communicate
his thought, via the laborious typewriter-alphabet method, consisted in
the partial sentence: "And now it comes, the point of all points, which
the Lord has truly revealed to me in my sleep, the point of all points
for which there—". The writing was interrupted by his doctor, with whom
he had a short discussion using the same method. When the doctor left,
Rosenzweig did not wish to continue with the writing, and he died in
the night, the sentence left unfinished."

thanks oarwell, lovely

Perusing
a few more of Spengler’s recent (burnt)offerings, we find, from the
Oct. 30 2007 AT, "When you can’t deal with the devil." Guess who the
devil is?
(Spengler’s mask has slipped since last I read him–now he just dishes up straight Krauthammerian paranoiac propaganda)

"In February 2006, I argued that a few sorties by American aircraft
could put the Iranian problem to rest, but that the window for a clean
military operation would not last long.
The longer Washington dallies, the more resources Tehran can put in place, including:

Upgrading Hezbollah’s offensive-weapon capabilities in Lebanon.

Integrating Hamas into its sphere of influence and military operations.

Putting in place terrorist capability against the West.

Preparing its Shi’ite auxiliaries in Iraq for insurrection."

"In early 2006, I predicted "war with Iran on the worst terms", and
that is what the West is likely to get. I warned at the time, "if
Washington waits another year to deliver an ultimatum to Iran, the
results will be civil war to the death in Iraq, the direct engagement
of Israel in a regional war through Hezbollah and Hamas, and extensive
terrorist action throughout the West, with extensive loss of American
life. There are no good outcomes, only less terrible ones. The West
will attack Iran, but only when such an attack will do the least good
and the most harm."

"Deals with the devil simply do not work, even in the ethically
challenged world of foreign policy. The devil will act according to his
nature, whatever bargain one attempts to make with him."

"Western civilians well may pay a heavy price for the excision of
Iran’s nuclear program in the form of terror attacks. The price may be
steep, but it’s worth it."

The West has no choice but to attack Iran, because Iran believes
that it has no choice but to develop nuclear weapons. Make no mistake:
this attack will destabilize the entire region, past the capacity of
the king’s horses and king’s men to reassemble it. The agenda will
shift from how best to promote stability, to how best to turn
instability to advantage."
——

Spengler’s recommendations form a blueprint for Hell. He confuses
the cause of the West’s sickness, centralized government militarism in
concert with imperialist corporatism, with the cure. We don’t need to
smash Islam with an iron fist, we need to reembrace the things that,
historically, have made the West preeminent: Aristotelianism,
Judeo-Christian ethical advances, and the inviolable dignity of the
individual in relation to the State.

More war will only lead to more war, and the further destruction of authentic Western values.

Spengler, though he denies it, is, like his namesake, a pessimist:
he can see no future for the West that does not entailing mass murder.

Like Neuhaus, Spengler’s great intelligence is no protection against profound error.

I noticed that Midge Decter leads the list of the members of the Editorial Board of FT.


Ambitious Jews bent on power and control on a massive political and
geographical scale have always been limited by the relatively tiny
number of Jews within the crucible from whence they came, and so have
sought after masses of gentile useful idiots who can be used as troops.
They have drawn-in these useful idiots with ideologies open to everyone
and theoretically beneficial to everyone, which are then used to
primarily advance the interests of the Jewish core.

In the 20th Century, Communism was this ideology; in the 21st, it is
Neoconservatism. Naive Christian Zionists are the useful idiots of
today, just as naive, eager, idealistic collectivists were the useful
idiots of yesterday.

Maybe there is a Darwinian element to this; those individuals
foolish enough to be hoodwinked by Organized Jewish Chicanery (OJC) end
up as canon fodder, just as whole societies foolish enough to be
hoodwinked by OJC end up with the kinds of problems that now afflict
America, including terrorist attacks because of support for Israel,
open borders/cheap labor to enrich OJC, massive deregulation of OJC
controlled industries, and a generally politically correct governing
class that refuses to address the OJC elephant in the living room.

What OJC amounts to is a Jewish oligarchy bent on extracting as much
nourishment and as many resource as it can from any given society or
country before the cadaver finally collapses, as did the Soviet Union.
OJC will then move on to fresh meat elsewhere.

Canada, Australia, Oceania…be afraid…be very afraid.

Will
BushCo bomb Iran before he leaves office, or leave it to the
replacement? If that’s Obama, it will not happen; otherwise, it will.
Is that the practical sum of it?

Just wanna know how much I will be paying for gas. And, wanna know if there will be US military draft.

Anybody got a clue?

RE:’More Barbed Wire, More War, Please’

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Regarding regime change in Iraq, in 2002 Ledeen criticized the views
of former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, writing:[20]

He fears that if we attack Iraq "I think we could have an explosion
in the Middle East. It could turn the whole region into a cauldron and
destroy the War on Terror."
One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please.

Friedmanism may be more comparable to Marxism as a world movement than is Christian Zionism.

The Christian Zionists are probably more like the Russian and
Ukrainian Orthodox peasant, who put so much effort into making
pilgrimages to the Holy Land in the late 19th century. One can easily
imagine that Jabotinsky wanted to harness such naive religious fervor
to serve his movement.

When he finally visited the USA to recruit Jews to his form of
Zionism, he also found Christians with just the right combination of
zeal and gullability in white racist premillennial dispensationist
Confederate irredentists of the American South. Jabotinsky consciously
canvassed their leaders in order to inject Zionism into their
eschatology.

Friedmanism may be more comparable to Marxism as a world movement than is Christian Zionism.

The Christian Zionists are probably more like the Russian and
Ukrainian Orthodox peasant, who put so much effort into making
pilgrimages to the Holy Land in the late 19th century. One can easily
imagine that Jabotinsky wanted to harness such naive religious fervor
to serve his movement.

When he finally visited the USA to recruit Jews to his form of
Zionism, he also found Christians with just the right combination of
zeal and gullability in white racist premillennial dispensationist
Confederate irredentists of the American South. Jabotinsky consciously
canvassed their leaders in order to inject Zionism into their
eschatology.

MICHAEL LEDEEN ON NRO:

February 07, 2005, 8:50 a.m.
Faster, Please
Iran needs change. We need to help — now.


"…to the Iranian people, I say tonight: As you stand for your own
liberty, America stands with you." — President Bush, in the State of
the Union Address

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200502070850.asp

SALON:

Iranian regime change: "Faster, please!"
Neocon Michael Ledeen, long a proponent of "democratic revolution" in Iran, weighs the odds of military action by the U.S.

By Alex Koppe

Massacre in Algeria

April 29th, 2008 by euraktiva

 

 

   

 

 

   
As
France celebrated victory in Europe on 8 May 1945, its army was
massacring thousands of civilians in Sétif and Guelma - events that
were the real beginning of Algeria’s war of independence.

By
  Mohammed Harbi

      
      

      

THE massacres in the Sétif and Guelma regions on 8 May 1945,
described at the time as events or troubles in north Constantine,
marked the beginning of the Algerian war of independence. This episode
in the Algerian tragedy is one of the great turning points in colonial
history.

The ensuing upheavals dominated the political life of Algeria, which
grew increasingly independent of political developments in France as
the nationalist movement gained momentum. Each time France was at war,
in 1871, 1914 and 1940, militants hoped to exploit the situation to win
reforms or free Algeria from colonial rule. There were uprisings in the
Kabyle region and eastern Algeria in 1871 and in the Aurès mountains in
1916. But May 1945 was different. There were widespread fears of
another uprising but, despite claims, there is no evidence that it was
on the agenda.

The defeat of France in June 1940 changed the terms of the conflict
between the colonial power and Algerian nationalists. The French colons
felt threatened by the Popular Front, even though it had yielded to
pressure and abandoned its plans for Algeria, and welcomed the Pétain
government and the way it dealt with Jews, freemasons and communists.

After the US landings, the climate changed. The nationalists
believed the democratic and anti-colonialist rhetoric of the Atlantic
Charter (12 August 1942) and felt they must set aside their differences
and unite. The pro-assimilation movement broke up. The battle lines
were drawn: on one side, the Algerian Communist party and the Amis de
la démocratie, which advocated unconditional support for the Allied war
effort; on the other, the Algerian People’s party (PPA), under its
charismatic leader Messali Hadj, which was not prepared to sacrifice
the interests of Algeria to the fight against fascism.

The PPA and its supporters were joined by one of the most impressive
political figures of the day, Ferhat Abbas. He had dismissed the idea
of an Algerian nation in 1936 but now, although he still claimed to be
firmly rooted in French and western culture, he was in favour of “an
autonomous Algerian republic in federation with a new, anti-colonial,
anti-imperialist French republic”. When Pétain came to power, Abbas
sent memorandums to the French authorities but received no reply. In
desperation, he turned to the US and, with the support of the PPA and
the ulemas, dispatched the document, signed by 28 deputies and
financial advisers, that was to become the Manifesto of the Algerian
People on 10 February 1943.

History’s pace quickened. The French authorities continued to
overestimate their ability to control events and Charles de Gaulle
failed to understand the strength of the nationalist movements in the
old colonies. Contrary to what is often claimed, his speech at
Brazzaville on 30 January 1944 did not promise emancipation or
autonomy, even within the countries concerned. Pierre Mendès France
wrote to André Nouschi that “this was clear from the order issued on 7
March 1944, which revived the 1936 Blum-Violette project, granting some
65,000 people French citizenship and allowing Algerians to hold
two-fifths of the seats on local councils” (1). Too little, too late.
These tiny reforms, granted as a favour, did not affect French
domination or the preponderance of the colons.

This was a serious political situation calling for genuine
discussions with the Algerian nationalists, but Paris would not
negotiate with them. Their response to the order came a week later.
Following discussions between Messali Hadj, speaking for the
pro-independence PPA, Sheikh Bachir al-Ibrahimi for the ulemas, and
Ferhat Abbas for those in favour of autonomy, the nationalists joined
forces in a new movement, the Friends of the Manifesto and Freedom
(AML). Although the PPA was part of this movement, it retained its
independence. Its militants had more political experience, they knew
how to play the Islamic card and they concentrated on challenging the
legitimacy of colonial rule. The more activist and politically
sophisticated young people in the cities followed suit. There were
increasing signs of civil disobedience across the country. Positions
hardened on both sides. European colonists and Algerian Jews lived in
fear.

At the AML congress in May 1945 the PPA took over. The nationalist
leaders’ original plan to seek autonomous status in federation with
France was scrapped. The majority now opted for a separate state,
united with the other Maghreb countries, and proclaimed Messali Hadj
the undisputed leader of the Algerian people. The administration was
aghast and pressed Ferhat Abbas to dissociate himself from his partners.

The confrontation had been brewing since April. On the nationalist
side, the PPA leaders - to be precise, party activists led by Lamine
Debaghine - were delighted at the prospect of revolt. They hoped the
rise of millenarianism and calls for jihad would speed the success of
their cause, but their unrealistic dreams came to nothing. On the
colonial side, there were fears that the Algerians would drive the
Europeans into the sea, and the plot to remove the AML and PPA leaders,
hatched by the authorities at the instigation of a senior government
official, Pierre René Gazagne, was gradually consolidated.

On 25 April 1945 Messali Hadj was abducted and deported to
Brazzaville following incidents at Reibell, where he was under house
arrest. This lit the fuse. Some people, including the Islamic scholar
Augustin Berque (2), feared that a show of strength by the nationalists
might lead to US intervention. The PPA, furious at the seizure of its
leader, was determined to secure his release. The party decided to
march in a separate contingent with its own slogans in the labour day
procession on 1 May, since the largest trade union, the CGT, and the
French and Algerian communist parties had remained silent on the
nationalist issue.

In Oran and Algiers police and some Europeans were upset by the
nationalists’ slogans and opened fire. There were casualties, dead and
wounded, and many arrests, but the nationalists continued to mobilise.

North Constantine, bounded by the towns of Bougie, Sétif, Bône and
Souk-Ahras, was under army control at the time. On VE day people in the
region were preparing to celebrate the Allied victory in response to a
call from the AML and the PPA. The instructions were clear: there were
to be peaceful demonstrations to remind France and its allies of the
Algerian nationalists’ claims. There was no order to start an
insurrection. So why were the events confined to the Sétif and Guelma
regions? Why the riots, the massacres?

The war had raised hopes of an end to colonial rule and these were
encouraged by international developments. The nationalists,
particularly the PPA, wanted to force the pace and hasten the natural
course of events. All the available political resources were employed
to mobilise the people: calls for an end to poverty and corruption, to
defend Islam. Annie Rey-Goldzeiguer has pointed out rightly: “The only
safe haven, common to all sections of society, was religion, with jihad
as a weapon of civil rather than religious war. The call to jihad
induced a state of religious terror that found an outlet in warfare”
(3). Political maturity did not rank high in rural society, where
people followed their instincts.

On the European side, vague anxiety was succeeded by real fear.
Despite all the changes, the idea of treating Algerians as equals was
intolerable, to be avoided at all costs. Even the lesser threat in the
order of 7 March 1944 terrified them. Their response to the Algerian
claims was to call for militia to be formed and demand repressive
measures. They found a sympathetic ear in Pierre René Gazagne, the
prefect of Constantine, Lestrade Carbonnel, and the sub-prefect of
Guelma, André Achiary, who undertook to lance the boil.

In Sétif the trouble started when police tried to seize the PPA
flag, now the Algerian flag, and banners calling for the release of
Messali Hadj and Algerian independence. It spread to the surrounding
countryside, where tribes rose up.

In Guelma the events were triggered by arrests and the actions of
the militia, which provoked tribes to take revenge on local settlers.
The European civilians and the police responded with mass executions
and reprisals against entire communities. To remove all traces of their
crimes and prevent investigations, they opened mass graves and burned
the bodies in the lime kilns at Heliopolis. The army’s actions caused a
military historian, Jean-Charles Jauffret, to say that its conduct
“resembled a European wartime operation rather than a traditional
colonial war” (4). In the Bougie region about 15,000 women and children
were forced to kneel before a military parade.

The final toll is speculative, as the French government closed the
commission of inquiry directed by General Tubert and the killers were
never tried. We know all about the judicial measures that were taken
and the number of Europeans who died, but the number of Algerian
victims is a mystery and is still debated among Algerian historians
(5). The figures released by the French authorities are not reliable.
Pending impartial investigations (6), we must agree with
Rey-Goldzeiguer that, for 102 European dead, thousands of Algerians
paid with their lives.

There were many repercussions: any hopes of a deal between the
Algerian people and the European colony were off. In France the
political forces of the wartime resistance movement failed their first
test on decolonisation, allowing themselves to be taken over by the
pro-colonial party. The architect of the repressive measures, General
Duval, warned: “I have secured you peace for 10 years. If France does
nothing, it will all happen again, only next time it will be worse and
may well be irreparable.” The French Communist party, which described
the nationalist leaders as “paid Nazi agitators” and called for “the
ringleaders to be shot”, was generally considered to be in favour of
colonial rule, although it subsequently changed tack and called for an
amnesty. In Algeria, after the AML was disbanded on 14 May, the
pro-autonomy faction and the ulemas accused the PPA of playing with
fire, and the nationalist camp broke up. The PPA activists set a date
“for mounting a new kind of challenge” and called on their leaders to
set up a national paramilitary organisation. They emerged on 1 November
1954 as leaders of the National Liberation Front. But the Algerian war
really began at Sétif on 8 May 1945.

 
 
    
   

  • -See also
  • The world at war
  • Germany: the division of the spoils, by Götz  Aly
  • Lest we forget, by Ignacio Ramonet
  • Trial run for mass murder, by Susanne Heim
  • Translated by Barbara Wilson

    (1) André Nouschi, “Notes de lectures sur la guerre d’Algérie”, in Relations internationales, no 114, 2003.

    (2) Father of the great Islamic scholar, Jacques Berque.

    (3) Rey-Goldzeiguer, Aux origines de la guerre d’Algérie 1940-1945, La Découverte, Paris, 2002.

    (4) Jauffret, La guerre d’Algérie par les documents, Services historiques de l’armée de terre , Paris.

    (5) Redouane Ainad Tabet, Le 8 mai 1945 en Algérie, OPU, Algiers, 1987; Boucif Mekhaled, Chronique d’un massacre, 8 mai 1945: Sétif, Guelma, Kherrata, Syros, Paris, 1995.

    (6) There is an early hint of such investigations in the current work of Jean-Pierre Peyrouloux. See Rétablir et maintenir l’ordre colonial, by Mohammed Harbi and Benjamin Stora.

    Hamas Accepts State Within 1967 Borders: Meshaal

    April 6th, 2008 by euraktiva

    Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal said that his movement supports the
    united Palestinian position that calls for the establishment of a fully
    sovereign state within the 1967 borders, including Jerusalem, and
    refugees’ right to return.

    In an interview published yesterday in
    Palestinian daily Al-Ayyam, Meshaal referred to the 2006 prisoners’
    document as proof of this. “There is a Palestinian document and in it
    all organizations say they agree to a state in the 1967 borders.”

    The
    prisoners’ document, also known as the National Reconciliation
    Document, was drafted by members of different Palestinian factions held
    in an Israeli prison, including Fatah and Hamas. It calls for the
    “establishment of an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as
    its capital on all territories occupied in 1967.”

    The
    Damascus-based leader said the Palestinian position had received a vote
    of consensus during the national accords of 2006 and that this position
    is considered acceptable to the Arab world. He called on ordinary
    Israelis to pressure on their government to stop aggression against the
    Palestinians in light of this document.

    When asked about claims
    by Israel and the United States that Hamas is seeking to destroy
    Israel, Meshaal said his movement has committed itself to a political
    plan, which it follows, and called on America, Europe and other
    international entities to conduct themselves in accordance with this
    political truth, and to judge Hamas based on its political plan, not on
    what people imagine.

    The Hamas leader also said there had been
    several Israeli attempts to contact him, but he had turned them down.
    He explained in the interview that Hamas is interested in a complete
    ceasefire in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, but that Israel is
    willing to agree to such a deal only in the Gaza Strip. He said secret
    contacts are under way with the Europeans and that the Americans are
    applying pressure to keep these contacts from broadening.

    Regarding
    the prisoner exchange deal for captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit,
    Meshaal said that it is not linked to the ceasefire and that
    negotiations are not progressing at this point. He said the Egyptians
    are still mediating and that some Europeans are contributing —
    something that the Egyptians know about.

    Meshaal said Israel
    continues to refuse to release prisoners who have been sentenced to
    life terms, even though it changed its criteria for releasing prisoners
    with “blood on their hands,” an Israeli term used for those who kill
    Israelis.

    Two months ago, Meshaal said an agreement was reached
    with Egypt for the initial release of some 350 prisoners in exchange
    for the transfer of Shalit to the Egyptians and that 100 more prisoners
    would be released when Shalit reaches Israel. During the second stage
    of the deal, another 550 prisoners would be released.

    Meshaal
    said he was surprised that Israel rejected most of the names on the
    Hamas list of prisoners, adding that jailed Fatah leader Marwan
    Al-Barghouthi was on this list.

    Meshaal was also asked about
    Israel’s claims that he is no longer in charge of Hamas and that he
    lost control to Ahmed Al-Jaabari, head of the group’s military wing,
    Izz Al-Din Al-Qassam Brigades. He responded by saying Israel’s views
    are like the stock market: Sometimes Khaled Meshaal is responsible for
    Hamas and sometimes he has lost control. “I laugh, since they do not
    know Hamas or its decision-making processes,” he said.

    In Cairo,
    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said he would withhold any
    assessment of the peace process with Israel until the two sides start
    putting a draft accord on paper. “I can’t speak of progress as long as
    we have not started to edit a draft. When we start drafting we will
    feel we have started to make progress,” he told reporters yesterday
    after meeting Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak.

    So far, Abbas
    said, the two sides aiming for a peace deal by the end of 2008 as
    targeted by Washington have only had “exchanges of ideas, a dialogue
    … in depth.” The Palestinian leader stressed that the contacts since
    the peace process was revived at a US-hosted conference in November had
    homed in on core issues and final-status points of dispute.

    “We
    are now in a process of negotiations in which we are discussing key
    issues. We are tackling questions linked to the final status,” Abbas
    said.

    “These are serious discussions … between all the parties
    concerned — Palestinians, Israel and also Americans — on the fact we
    must use 2008 to seal an accord with Israel on the final status” of the
    Palestinian territories